Comments on: Arguments You’ll Almost Never Hear http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/ Jump the Fence or Walk Around Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:42:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jeff Perrin http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-52 Jeff Perrin Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:49:09 +0000 http://www.jeffperrin.com/index.php/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-52 All the HTTP compression in the world isn't going to squish a GIF or JPEG down any significant amount. Sure, text can be compressed, but that ain't the whole picture. All the HTTP compression in the world isn’t going to squish a GIF or JPEG down any significant amount. Sure, text can be compressed, but that ain’t the whole picture.

]]> By: foobar http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-51 foobar Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:11:11 +0000 http://www.jeffperrin.com/index.php/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-51 You actually think this is a problem? Why aren't you using HTTP compression then? This problem was solved in the 90s. Sorry. You actually think this is a problem? Why aren’t you using HTTP compression then?

This problem was solved in the 90s. Sorry.

]]> By: Jay R. Wren http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-50 Jay R. Wren Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:09:39 +0000 http://www.jeffperrin.com/index.php/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-50 We are talking about it. http://www.ayende.com/Blog/archive/2006/10/26/7147.aspx http://www.aspnetpro.com/newsletterarticle/2004/04/asp200404dk_l/asp200404dk_l.asp http://codebetter.com/blogs/raymond.lewallen/archive/2005/02/22/51315.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AMultirequestsafeViewStatePersister.aspx http://tuldoklambat.blogspot.com/2005/11/viewstate-compression-and-_113274519039560470.html We are talking about it.

http://www.ayende.com/Blog/archive/2006/10/26/7147.aspx

http://www.aspnetpro.com/newsletterarticle/2004/04/asp200404dk_l/asp200404dk_l.asp

http://codebetter.com/blogs/raymond.lewallen/archive/2005/02/22/51315.aspx

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AMultirequestsafeViewStatePersister.aspx

http://tuldoklambat.blogspot.com/2005/11/viewstate-compression-and-_113274519039560470.html

]]> By: Daren http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-49 Daren Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:51:57 +0000 http://www.jeffperrin.com/index.php/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-49 Interesting point Jeff. It seems these days that markup optimization is often an afterthought. It always striked me a bit odd that people could push out these bloated websites totally ignoring tableless design, CSS Control adapters, output caching etc. I think it's a bit risky considering the dynamic and unpredictable nature of the web. I mean a website could be attracting 500 visitors one week, and then 500,000 the week after (ok this doesn't happen all the time but it does happen). So I am not sure how a owner would feel if he/she is all of a sudden paying for excess bandwidth. I came across an interesting a couple of years ago that looked at Microsoft's website and really puts things into perspective regarding excess bandwidth consumption etc. http://www.stopdesign.com/articles/throwing_tables/ Interesting point Jeff.

It seems these days that markup optimization is often an afterthought. It always striked me a bit odd that people could push out these bloated websites totally ignoring tableless design, CSS Control adapters, output caching etc.

I think it’s a bit risky considering the dynamic and unpredictable nature of the web. I mean a website could be attracting 500 visitors one week, and then 500,000 the week after (ok this doesn’t happen all the time but it does happen). So I am not sure how a owner would feel if he/she is all of a sudden paying for excess bandwidth.

I came across an interesting a couple of years ago that looked at Microsoft’s website and really puts things into perspective regarding excess bandwidth consumption etc.

http://www.stopdesign.com/articles/throwing_tables/

]]> By: Jeff Perrin http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-48 Jeff Perrin Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:57:30 +0000 http://www.jeffperrin.com/index.php/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-48 Nathan: Yeah, combine my incredible insight with my innate sex appeal and you have a very dangerous combination. Nathan: Yeah, combine my incredible insight with my innate sex appeal and you have a very dangerous combination.

]]> By: Nathan http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-47 Nathan Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:38:52 +0000 http://www.jeffperrin.com/index.php/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-47 Wow. Jeff. Your thoughts show amazing insight. It's really cool to see you talking your craft. Wow. Jeff. Your thoughts show amazing insight. It’s really cool to see you talking your craft.

]]> By: Mo http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-46 Mo Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:48:03 +0000 http://www.jeffperrin.com/index.php/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-46 I couldn't agree more! Not only that but do we really need to always use dynamic controls to render static content? For instance when ASP.NET churns out our in to tags. What's the point if it's static? Don't get me started on the over use of tables! I couldn’t agree more! Not only that but do we really need to always use dynamic controls to render static content?
For instance when ASP.NET churns out our in to tags. What’s the point if it’s static?

Don’t get me started on the over use of tables!

]]> By: Mike Buckley http://jeffperrin.com/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-45 Mike Buckley Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:13:10 +0000 http://www.jeffperrin.com/index.php/2007/06/06/arguments-youll-almost-never-hear/#comment-45 Great post. I have a fantastic example in mind =p Great post. I have a fantastic example in mind =p

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